{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","generatedAt":"2026-07-28T06:20:51.496Z","headline":"专家质疑白宫指控：蒸馏Anthropic的Fable并非Kimi K3成功的关键","description":"白宫科学顾问指控中国公司Moonshot通过蒸馏Anthropic的Fable大模型并使用违禁芯片打造了Kimi K3。但多位AI专家表示怀疑，认为仅靠蒸馏无法在Fable于7月1日发布后的两周内复现其能力，且监督微调（SFT）的收益正随模型复杂度提升而下降。","url":"https://www.aioga.com/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","mainEntityOfPage":"https://www.aioga.com/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","datePublished":"2026-07-23T11:00:00.000Z","dateModified":"2026-07-23T11:00:00.000Z","inLanguage":"zh-CN","publisher":{"@type":"NewsMediaOrganization","name":"Aioga","url":"https://www.aioga.com"},"citation":["https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/23/experts-say-exploiting-anthropics-fable-isnt-how-kimi-k3-got-so-good","https://aihot.virxact.com/items/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v"],"canonicalUrl":"https://www.aioga.com/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","directAnswer":{"@type":"Answer","text":"Aioga 编辑摘要：白宫科学顾问指控中国公司Moonshot通过蒸馏Anthropic的Fable大模型并使用违禁芯片打造了Kimi K3。 Aioga 将其归入「技巧观点」方向，重点关注它对真实使用和行业竞争的影响。","url":"https://www.aioga.com/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","dateCreated":"2026-07-23T11:00:00.000Z","author":{"@type":"Organization","@id":"https://www.aioga.com/authors/aioga-editorial/#editorial-team","name":"Aioga Editorial Team","url":"https://www.aioga.com/authors/aioga-editorial/"}},"evidence":[{"@type":"CreativeWork","name":"TechCrunch source article","url":"https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/23/experts-say-exploiting-anthropics-fable-isnt-how-kimi-k3-got-so-good","datePublished":"2026-07-23T11:00:00.000Z","provider":{"@type":"Organization","name":"TechCrunch","url":"https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/23/experts-say-exploiting-anthropics-fable-isnt-how-kimi-k3-got-so-good"}},{"@type":"CreativeWork","name":"AIHot archive record","url":"https://aihot.virxact.com/items/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v","datePublished":"2026-07-23T11:00:00.000Z","provider":{"@type":"Organization","name":"AIHot","url":"https://aihot.virxact.com/items/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v"}}],"aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","originalPublisher":{"name":"TechCrunch","url":"https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/23/experts-say-exploiting-anthropics-fable-isnt-how-kimi-k3-got-so-good"},"article":{"id":"cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v","slug":"cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v","url":"https://www.aioga.com/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","title":"专家质疑白宫指控：蒸馏Anthropic的Fable并非Kimi K3成功的关键","title_en":"Experts say exploiting Anthropic's Fable isn't how Kimi K3 got so good","summary":"白宫科学顾问指控中国公司Moonshot通过蒸馏Anthropic的Fable大模型并使用违禁芯片打造了Kimi K3。但多位AI专家表示怀疑，认为仅靠蒸馏无法在Fable于7月1日发布后的两周内复现其能力，且监督微调（SFT）的收益正随模型复杂度提升而下降。","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","sourceUrl":"https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/23/experts-say-exploiting-anthropics-fable-isnt-how-kimi-k3-got-so-good","aiHotUrl":"https://aihot.virxact.com/items/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v","publishedAt":"2026-07-23T11:00:00.000Z","category":"技巧观点","score":64,"selected":false,"articleBody":["White House science advisor Michael Kratsios said that Moonshot, the Chinese company behind Kimi K3, the largest available open-weight LLM, built its model by copying Anthropic’s Fable LLM while using chips that aren’t cleared for export to China.","“Large-scale, covert industrial distillation aimed at stealing proprietary U.S. technology and undermining American research is unacceptable,” Kratsios wrote：https://x.com/mkratsios47/status/2079933645888880708, amid reported discussions about banning Chinese open-weight models：https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/20/openai-is-scared-of-open-weight-models-should-the-us-be/ that have roiled the AI sector. Moonshot did not respond to questions about its training process, and Kratsios did not share more details about the sources of his allegations.","Kratsios’ tweet echoed comments from Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent that “we are finding watermarks of our U.S. large language models on many of the Chinese models, and that that’s unacceptable.” It’s not clear what those watermarks consist of, and the Treasury Department did not respond to a query.","However, experts are skeptical that distillation — the process of querying an LLM to determine its inner workings and copy its capabilities — is responsible for the advanced capabilities that Kimi K3 displays.","“I don’t think you get a model this strong and this quickly on the heels of Fable doing strictly distillation,” Braden Hancock, a researcher at the Laude Institute and co-founder of Snorkel AI, told TechCrunch. “There’s just not even frankly time, right? Fable’s only been publicly available since July 1st. You can’t distill that much data, train a model, and release it in two weeks.”","“I’ve been of the opinion that distillation is becoming less and less impactful over time as the Chinese models get closer to the frontier and the training regime shifts to [reinforcement learning],” Nathan Lambert, an AI researcher at the Allen Institute for AI, said in a podcast：https://www.interconnects.ai/p/open-models-recap-more-on-kimi-k3 released yesterday. “[I]f it were the case, everyone would be easily able to catch up to a GLM or to a K3 by using its data for distillation. But we have not, or we won’t see this, from supervised fine-tuning alone.”","Performing distillation requires a lab to systematically query its target model in order to generate data that can be used for post-training. Sometimes this explicitly involves asking the model to articulate its chain-of-thought to understand how it solves problems. Other times, the prompts and responses from a model are used to train a new model in a process called supervised fine-tuning, or SFT.","It’s this fine-tuning process that can result in a model ostensibly created by a third party claiming that it is Claude. Fine tuning is where, in Lambert’s view, the “model picks up its manners.”","But Lambert says that the benefits of SFT are becoming less important as models become more complex. To distill Fable-like capabilities would likely require reinforcement learning techniques. In many cases, that means having an agent of the larger model grade the smaller model’s responses, and adjusting based on the grade.","The more advanced techniques also require more significant infrastructure. Large reinforcement learning runs can require tens of millions of agents. Using a frontier lab’s API to do that “would be insanely expensive and potentially it would probably be a time bottleneck because these models are pretty slow and to be frank might not even give you a performance uplift.”","It seems likely that previous frontier models might have contributed to Kimi; Anthropic publicly accused：https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-distillation-attacks Moonshot, DeepSeek, and MiniMax of systematically distilling its models earlier this year. Anthropic said it discovered millions of exchanges between its models and users it identified at those companies through IP addresses and other meta data. Those queries were “distinct from normal usage patterns, reflecting deliberate capability extraction rather than legitimate use.” Anthropic didn’t respond to TechCrunch’s queries about Fable distillation.","However, distillation is seen as common among AI companies, not just in China. Elon Musk testified：https://techcrunch.com/2026/04/30/elon-musk-testifies-that-xai-trained-grok-on-openai-models/ earlier this year that his company SpaceXAI distilled OpenAI models to develop Grok, and that the practice was common in the industry. The line between distillation and developing synthetic datasets, for example, can be fairly blurry.","“[I]n general, Americans are understating the technical expertise of these Chinese teams,” Hancock said. “One of the founders of Moonshot was a CMU PhD student. These are legitimate researchers and engineers doing solid work. …if American models ground to a halt, I think China’s progress would slow, but would still continue. They’re not just riding coattails here.”","It’s also hard to disentangle distillation from the second part of Kratsios’ comment — that Moonshot had obtained advanced Nvidia Chips, Grace Blackwell 300s, and also accessed GB300 equipped-servers in Thailand. Those chips are banned from export to China, but a black market exists, according to Sam Bresnick, a research fellow at Georgetown’s Center for Security and Emerging Technology. In May, the founder of Supermicro, a U.S. server builder, was indicted for smuggling advanced chips into China.","“I am a proponent of know your customer laws for data centers across the world,” Bresnick said. “If you are letting a company conduct huge training runs on your state-of-the-art hardware, there needs to be a reporting mechanism for who that company is and what they’re doing.”","President Joe Biden’s Department of Commerce proposed：https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/01/29/2024-01580/taking-additional-steps-to-address-the-national-emergency-with-respect-to-significant-malicious federal know-your-customer rules for data centers in 2024, but no further progress appears to have been made under Donald Trump. Exporters shipping advanced chips abroad, however, are supposed to ensure：https://www.mayerbrown.com/en/insights/publications/2026/01/administration-policies-on-advanced-ai-chips-codified they are only used for approved purposes.","When you purchase through links in our articles, we may earn a small commission：https://techcrunch.com/techcrunch-affiliate-monetization-standards/. This doesn’t affect our editorial independence.","Scale faster. Grow your portfolio. Gain practical expertise. No matter your goal, Disrupt can empower you. Save up to $330 toda y!","SpaceX launches new V3 Starlink satellites but suffers another booster failure：https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/24/spacex-launches-new-v3-starlink-satellites-but-suffers-another-booster-failure/ Sean O'Kane：https://techcrunch.com/author/sean-okane/","US accuses American of allegedly wiping his phone using a ‘duress’ password during border search：https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/24/us-accuses-american-of-allegedly-wiping-his-phone-using-a-duress-password-during-border-search/ Zack Whittaker：https://techcrunch.com/author/zack-whittaker/","Anduril reportedly in talks to raise funding at $100B valuation, more than 3x last year’s mark：https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/24/anduril-reportedly-in-talks-to-raise-funding-at-100b-valuation-more-than-3x-last-years-mark/ Ram Iyer：https://techcrunch.com/author/ram-iyer/","Tesla’s robotaxis are moving in reverse：https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/23/teslas-robotaxis-are-moving-in-reverse/ Sean 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研究员内森·兰伯特在昨天发布的播客中说道：https://www.interconnects.ai/p/open-models-recap-more-on-kimi-k3。“如果真是这样，每个人都可以轻松通过蒸馏使用其数据来追赶 GLM 或 K3。但我们没有，也不会仅通过监督微调看到这种情况。”","进行蒸馏需要一个实验室系统地查询其目标模型，以生成可用于训练后处理的数据。有时，这明确地涉及要求模型阐述其思维链，以理解它是如何解决问题的。其他时候，模型的提示和响应被用于训练新模型，这一过程称为监督微调（Supervised Fine-Tuning，简称SFT）。","正是这种微调过程可能导致一个模型看似由第三方创建，并声称它是Claude。在Lambert看来，微调是“模型学会规矩”的地方。","但Lambert表示，随着模型变得更加复杂，SFT的好处正变得不那么重要。要蒸馏出类似Fable的能力，可能需要强化学习技术。在许多情况下，这意味着让大型模型的代理对小型模型的响应进行评分，并根据评分进行调整。","更先进的技术也需要更庞大的基础设施。大型强化学习运行可能需要数千万代理。使用前沿实验室的API来完成这些操作“将会极其昂贵，而且可能成为时间瓶颈，因为这些模型相当慢，说实话，甚至可能不会带来性能提升。”","似乎以前的前沿模型可能贡献了Kimi；Anthropic公开指控：https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-distillation-attacks Moonshot、DeepSeek 和 MiniMax在今年早些时候系统性地蒸馏其模型。Anthropic表示，他们通过IP地址和其他元数据发现了其模型与这些公司用户之间数百万次交互。这些查询“不同于正常使用模式，反映出有意提取能力而非正当使用。”对于Fable的蒸馏问题，Anthropic没有回应TechCrunch的询问。","然而，蒸馏在人工智能公司中被视为普遍做法，而不仅仅是在中国。今年早些时候，埃隆·马斯克作证称（https://techcrunch.com/2026/04/30/elon-musk-testifies-that-xai-trained-grok-on-openai-models/）他的公司 SpaceXAI 对 OpenAI 模型进行了蒸馏，以开发 Grok，并且这种做法在行业中很常见。例如，蒸馏与开发合成数据集之间的界限可能相当模糊。","“总的来说，美国人低估了这些中国团队的技术专长，”汉考克说。“Moonshot 的一位创始人曾是卡内基梅隆大学的博士生。这些都是从事扎实工作的正规研究人员和工程师……如果美国的模型停滞不前，我认为中国的进展会放缓，但仍会继续。他们不是仅仅在搭便车。”","同样，很难将蒸馏与 Kratsios 评论的第二部分区分开——即 Moonshot 获得了先进的英伟达芯片 Grace Blackwell 300s，并访问了位于泰国的 GB300 配备服务器。据乔治城大学安全与新兴技术中心研究员 Sam Bresnick 称，这些芯片禁止出口到中国，但黑市仍然存在。今年五月，美国服务器制造商 Supermicro 的创始人因向中国走私先进芯片而被起诉。","“我支持全球数据中心的了解你的客户（KYC）法规，”Bresnick 说。“如果你允许一个公司在你最先进的硬件上进行大规模训练，那么必须有一套报告机制，说明该公司是谁以及他们在做什么。”","拜登总统的商务部在 2024 年提出了（https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/01/29/2024-01580/taking-additional-steps-to-address-the-national-emergency-with-respect-to-significant-malicious）针对数据中心的联邦了解你的客户规则，但在唐纳德·特朗普时期似乎没有进一步进展。然而，出口先进芯片到海外的出口商应确保（https://www.mayerbrown.com/en/insights/publications/2026/01/administration-policies-on-advanced-ai-chips-codified）这些芯片仅用于批准的用途。","当您通过我们文章中的链接购买时，我们可能会赚取一小笔佣金：https://techcrunch.com/techcrunch-affiliate-monetization-standards/。这不会影响我们的编辑独立性。","更快扩展。增长您的投资组合。获取实用经验。无论您的目标是什么，Disrupt 都可以赋能您。今天最多可节省 330 美元！","SpaceX 发射新的 V3 Starlink 卫星，但再次发生助推器故障：https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/24/spacex-launches-new-v3-starlink-satellites-but-suffers-another-booster-failure/ Sean O'Kane：https://techcrunch.com/author/sean-okane/","美国指控一名美国人在边境检查期间， allegedly 使用“胁迫”密码清除了手机内容：https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/24/us-accuses-american-of-allegedly-wiping-his-phone-using-a-duress-password-during-border-search/ Zack Whittaker：https://techcrunch.com/author/zack-whittaker/","据报道，Anduril 正在洽谈以 1000 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K3成功的关键","summary":"白宫科学顾问指控中国公司Moonshot通过蒸馏Anthropic的Fable大模型并使用违禁芯片打造了Kimi K3。但多位AI专家表示怀疑，认为仅靠蒸馏无法在Fable于7月1日发布后的两周内复现其能力，且监督微调（SFT）的收益正随模型复杂度提升而下降。","category":"技巧观点","source":"TechCrunch","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"专家质疑白宫指控：蒸馏Anthropic的Fable并非Kimi K3成功的关键 - Aioga AI资讯","description":"白宫科学顾问指控中国公司Moonshot通过蒸馏Anthropic的Fable大模型并使用违禁芯片打造了Kimi K3。但多位AI专家表示怀疑，认为仅靠蒸馏无法在Fable于7月1日发布后的两周内复现其能力，且监督微调（SFT）的收益正随模型复杂度提升而下降。","url":"https://www.aioga.com/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/"},"en":{"title":"Experts Question White House Allegation: Distilling Anthropic's Fable Is Not the Key to Kimi K3's Success","summary":"White House science advisors accuse the Chinese company Moonshot of creating the Kimi K3 by distilling Anthropic's Fable large model and using prohibited chips. However, several AI experts expressed skepticism, believing that distillation alone could not reproduce Fable's capabilities within two weeks after its release on July 1, and that the benefits of supervised fine-tuning (SFT) are decreasing as model complexity increases.","category":"Insights","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"Experts Question White House Allegation: Distilling Anthropic's Fable Is Not the Key to Kimi K3's Success - Aioga AI News","description":"White House science advisors accuse the Chinese company Moonshot of creating the Kimi K3 by distilling Anthropic's Fable large model and using prohibited chips. 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Sin embargo, varios expertos en IA expresaron dudas, considerando que solo con la destilación no sería posible reproducir sus capacidades en las dos semanas posteriores al lanzamiento de Fable el 1 de julio, y que los beneficios del ajuste fino supervisado (SFT) están disminuyendo a medida que aumenta la complejidad del modelo.","category":"Ideas","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"Expertos cuestionan las acusaciones de la Casa Blanca: destilar Fable de Anthropic no es la clave del éxito de Kimi K3 - Aioga Noticias de IA","description":"El asesor científico de la Casa Blanca acusó a la empresa china Moonshot de haber creado Kimi K3 mediante la destilación del gran modelo Fable de Anthropic y el uso de chips prohib...","url":"https://www.aioga.com/es/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","contentTranslated":true,"sourceHash":"44d5aea68cf0d281","translatedAt":"2026-07-26T06:23:38.624Z"},"fr":{"title":"Des experts remettent en question les accusations de la Maison Blanche : la distillation de Fable par Anthropic n'est pas la clé du succès de Kimi K3","summary":"Le conseiller scientifique de la Maison Blanche accuse la société chinoise Moonshot d'avoir créé le Kimi K3 en distillant le grand modèle Fable d'Anthropic et en utilisant des puces interdites. Cependant, plusieurs experts en IA expriment des doutes, estimant qu'il est impossible de reproduire ses capacités seulement par distillation dans les deux semaines suivant la sortie de Fable le 1er juillet, et que les gains du réglage supervisé (SFT) diminuent à mesure que la complexité du modèle augmente.","category":"Analyses","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"Des experts remettent en question les accusations de la Maison Blanche : la distillation de Fable par Anthropic n'est pas la clé du succès de Kimi K3 - Aioga Actualités IA","description":"Le conseiller scientifique de la Maison Blanche accuse la société chinoise Moonshot d'avoir créé le Kimi K3 en distillant le grand modèle Fable d'Anthropic et en utilisant des puce...","url":"https://www.aioga.com/fr/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","contentTranslated":true,"sourceHash":"44d5aea68cf0d281","translatedAt":"2026-07-26T06:24:22.429Z"},"de":{"title":"Experten zweifeln an den Anschuldigungen des Weißen Hauses: Die Destillation von Anthropics Fable ist nicht der Schlüssel zum Erfolg von Kimi K3","summary":"Der wissenschaftliche Berater des Weißen Hauses beschuldigte das chinesische Unternehmen Moonshot, Kimi K3 durch das Destillieren des großen Modells Fable von Anthropic und die Verwendung verbotener Chips hergestellt zu haben. Mehrere KI-Experten äußerten jedoch Zweifel und glauben, dass eine bloße Destillation nicht ausreicht, um seine Fähigkeiten innerhalb von zwei Wochen nach der Veröffentlichung von Fable am 1. Juli zu reproduzieren, und dass der Nutzen von überwachtem Feinabstimmen (SFT) mit zunehmender Modellkomplexität abnimmt.","category":"技巧观点","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"Experten zweifeln an den Anschuldigungen des Weißen Hauses: Die Destillation von Anthropics Fable ist nicht der Schlüssel zum Erfolg von Kimi K3 - Aioga KI-News","description":"Der wissenschaftliche Berater des Weißen Hauses beschuldigte das chinesische Unternehmen Moonshot, Kimi K3 durch das Destillieren des großen Modells Fable von Anthropic und die Ver...","url":"https://www.aioga.com/de/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","contentTranslated":true,"sourceHash":"44d5aea68cf0d281","translatedAt":"2026-07-26T06:24:23.792Z"},"pt-BR":{"title":"Especialistas questionam acusações da Casa Branca: destilar Fable da Anthropic não é a chave do sucesso do Kimi K3","summary":"O conselheiro científico da Casa Branca acusou a empresa chinesa Moonshot de criar o Kimi K3 ao destilar o grande modelo Fable da Anthropic e usar chips proibidos. No entanto, vários especialistas em IA expressaram dúvidas, acreditando que apenas a destilação não seria suficiente para reproduzir suas capacidades nas duas semanas após o lançamento do Fable em 1º de julho, e que os ganhos do ajuste fino supervisionado (SFT) estão diminuindo à medida que a complexidade do modelo aumenta.","category":"技巧观点","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"Especialistas questionam acusações da Casa Branca: destilar Fable da Anthropic não é a chave do sucesso do Kimi K3 - Aioga Notícias de IA","description":"O conselheiro científico da Casa Branca acusou a empresa chinesa Moonshot de criar o Kimi K3 ao destilar o grande modelo Fable da Anthropic e usar chips proibidos. 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Однако несколько экспертов в области ИИ выразили сомнение, считая, что только с помощью дистилляции невозможно воспроизвести возможности Fable в течение двух недель после его выпуска 1 июля, а выгоды от индуцированной под контролем настройки (SFT) снижаются с ростом сложности модели.","category":"技巧观点","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"Эксперты ставят под сомнение обвинения Белого дома: дистилляция Fable компании Anthropic не является ключом к успеху Kimi K3 - Aioga Новости ИИ","description":"Научный советник Белого дома обвинил китайскую компанию Moonshot в создании Kimi K3 путем дистилляции большого языка модели Fable от Anthropic и использования запрещённых чипов. Од...","url":"https://www.aioga.com/ru/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","contentTranslated":true,"sourceHash":"44d5aea68cf0d281","translatedAt":"2026-07-26T06:25:08.820Z"},"ar":{"title":"الخبراء يشككون في اتهامات البيت الأبيض: تقطير Fable من Anthropic ليس مفتاح نجاح Kimi K3","summary":"المستشار العلمي للبيت الأبيض اتهم شركة صينية تدعى Moonshot باستخدام تقطير النموذج الكبير Fable من Anthropic واستخدام شرائح محظورة لبناء Kimi K3. لكن عدة خبراء في الذكاء الاصطناعي أبدوا شكوكهم، مؤكدين أن الاعتماد على التقطير وحده لا يمكن أن يعيد إنتاج قدرات Fable في غضون أسبوعين بعد إصداره في 1 يوليو، وأن فوائد التعديل الدقيق الخاضع للإشراف (SFT) تتناقص مع زيادة تعقيد النموذج.","category":"技巧观点","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"الخبراء يشككون في اتهامات البيت الأبيض: تقطير Fable من Anthropic ليس مفتاح نجاح Kimi K3 - Aioga أخبار الذكاء الاصطناعي","description":"المستشار العلمي للبيت الأبيض اتهم شركة صينية تدعى Moonshot باستخدام تقطير النموذج الكبير Fable من Anthropic واستخدام شرائح محظورة لبناء Kimi K3. لكن عدة خبراء في الذكاء الاصطناعي أ...","url":"https://www.aioga.com/ar/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","contentTranslated":true,"sourceHash":"44d5aea68cf0d281","translatedAt":"2026-07-26T06:25:54.262Z"},"hi":{"title":"विशेषज्ञ व्हाइट हाउस के आरोपों पर सवाल उठाते हैं: Anthropic की Fable का आसवन Kimi K3 की सफलता की कुंजी नहीं है","summary":"व्हाइट हाउस के वैज्ञानिक सलाहकार ने चीन की कंपनी मूनशॉट पर आरोप लगाया कि उन्होंने एंथ्रोपिक के फेबल बड़े मॉडल को डिस्टिल करके और प्रतिबंधित चिप का उपयोग करके किमी K3 बनाया। लेकिन कई एआई विशेषज्ञों ने संदेह व्यक्त किया, मानते हुए कि केवल डिस्टिलेशन के जरिए 1 जुलाई को फेबल के प्रकाशन के दो सप्ताह के भीतर इसकी क्षमताओं को दोहराना संभव नहीं है, और सुपरवाइज्ड फाइन-ट्यूनिंग (SFT) का लाभ मॉडल की जटिलता बढ़ने के साथ घट रहा है।","category":"技巧观点","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"विशेषज्ञ व्हाइट हाउस के आरोपों पर सवाल उठाते हैं: Anthropic की Fable का आसवन Kimi K3 की सफलता की कुंजी नहीं है - Aioga AI समाचार","description":"व्हाइट हाउस के वैज्ञानिक सलाहकार ने चीन की कंपनी मूनशॉट पर आरोप लगाया कि उन्होंने एंथ्रोपिक के फेबल बड़े मॉडल को डिस्टिल करके और प्रतिबंधित चिप का उपयोग करके किमी K3 बनाया। लेकिन क...","url":"https://www.aioga.com/hi/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","contentTranslated":true,"sourceHash":"44d5aea68cf0d281","translatedAt":"2026-07-26T06:25:52.076Z"},"it":{"title":"Gli esperti mettono in dubbio le accuse della Casa Bianca: la distillazione di Fable di Anthropic non è la chiave del successo di Kimi K3","summary":"Il consigliere scientifico della Casa Bianca accusa la società cinese Moonshot di aver creato Kimi K3 distillando il grande modello Fable di Anthropic e utilizzando chip proibiti. Tuttavia, diversi esperti di intelligenza artificiale esprimono dubbi, ritenendo che la semplice distillazione non possa replicare le capacità di Fable entro due settimane dal suo rilascio il 1° luglio, e che i benefici del fine-tuning supervisionato (SFT) stiano diminuendo con l'aumento della complessità del modello.","category":"技巧观点","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"Gli esperti mettono in dubbio le accuse della Casa Bianca: la distillazione di Fable di Anthropic non è la chiave del successo di Kimi K3 - Aioga Notizie IA","description":"Il consigliere scientifico della Casa Bianca accusa la società cinese Moonshot di aver creato Kimi K3 distillando il grande modello Fable di Anthropic e utilizzando chip proibiti....","url":"https://www.aioga.com/it/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","contentTranslated":true,"sourceHash":"44d5aea68cf0d281","translatedAt":"2026-07-26T06:26:35.830Z"},"nl":{"title":"Experts betwijfelen het Witte Huis: het distilleren van Anthropics Fable is niet de sleutel tot Kimi K3's succes","summary":"Het wetenschappelijk adviseur van het Witte Huis beschuldigde het Chinese bedrijf Moonshot ervan Kimi K3 te hebben ontwikkeld door het Anthropic Fable-grootmodel te distilleren en verboden chips te gebruiken. Maar meerdere AI-experts uitten hun twijfels en stelden dat het alleen door distillatie onmogelijk is om de capaciteiten van Fable binnen twee weken na de release op 1 juli te reproduceren, en dat het rendement van supervised fine-tuning (SFT) daalt naarmate de complexiteit van het model toeneemt.","category":"技巧观点","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"Experts betwijfelen het Witte Huis: het distilleren van Anthropics Fable is niet de sleutel tot Kimi K3's succes - Aioga AI-nieuws","description":"Het wetenschappelijk adviseur van het Witte Huis beschuldigde het Chinese bedrijf Moonshot ervan Kimi K3 te hebben ontwikkeld door het Anthropic Fable-grootmodel te distilleren en...","url":"https://www.aioga.com/nl/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","contentTranslated":true,"sourceHash":"44d5aea68cf0d281","translatedAt":"2026-07-26T06:26:40.343Z"},"tr":{"title":"Uzmanlar Beyaz Saray'ın Suçlamalarını Sorguluyor: Damıtılmış Anthropic'in Fable'ı Kimi K3'ün Başarısının Anahtarı Değil","summary":"Beyaz Saray bilim danışmanı, Çin şirketi Moonshot'u Anthropic'in Fable büyük modelini damıtmak ve yasaklı çipler kullanarak Kimi K3'ü geliştirmekle suçladı. Ancak birçok yapay zeka uzmanı şüpheyle yaklaşıyor; yalnızca damıtmayla, Fable'ın 1 Temmuz'da yayınlanmasından sonraki iki hafta içinde yeteneklerini yeniden üretmenin mümkün olamayacağını ve denetimli ince ayarın (SFT) kazancının model karmaşıklığı arttıkça azaldığını düşünüyorlar.","category":"技巧观点","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"Uzmanlar Beyaz Saray'ın Suçlamalarını Sorguluyor: Damıtılmış Anthropic'in Fable'ı Kimi K3'ün Başarısının Anahtarı Değil - Aioga AI Haberleri","description":"Beyaz Saray bilim danışmanı, Çin şirketi Moonshot'u Anthropic'in Fable büyük modelini damıtmak ve yasaklı çipler kullanarak Kimi K3'ü geliştirmekle suçladı. Ancak birçok yapay zeka...","url":"https://www.aioga.com/tr/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","contentTranslated":true,"sourceHash":"44d5aea68cf0d281","translatedAt":"2026-07-26T06:27:22.536Z"},"vi":{"title":"Chuyên gia nghi ngờ cáo buộc của Nhà Trắng: Chưng cất Fable của Anthropic không phải là yếu tố then chốt dẫn đến thành công của Kimi K3","summary":"Cố vấn khoa học của Nhà Trắng cáo buộc công ty Trung Quốc Moonshot đã tạo ra Kimi K3 bằng cách chưng cất mô hình lớn Fable của Anthropic và sử dụng chip bị cấm. Tuy nhiên, nhiều chuyên gia AI bày tỏ nghi ngờ, cho rằng chỉ dựa vào chưng cất không thể tái hiện khả năng của Fable trong vòng hai tuần sau khi Fable được phát hành vào ngày 1 tháng 7, và lợi ích của việc tinh chỉnh giám sát (SFT) đang giảm dần khi độ phức tạp của mô hình tăng lên.","category":"技巧观点","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"Chuyên gia nghi ngờ cáo buộc của Nhà Trắng: Chưng cất Fable của Anthropic không phải là yếu tố then chốt dẫn đến thành công của Kimi K3 - Tin tức AI Aioga","description":"Cố vấn khoa học của Nhà Trắng cáo buộc công ty Trung Quốc Moonshot đã tạo ra Kimi K3 bằng cách chưng cất mô hình lớn Fable của Anthropic và sử dụng chip bị cấm. Tuy nhiên, nhiều ch...","url":"https://www.aioga.com/vi/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","contentTranslated":true,"sourceHash":"44d5aea68cf0d281","translatedAt":"2026-07-26T06:27:25.015Z"},"id":{"title":"Para ahli meragukan tuduhan Gedung Putih: Distilasi Fable Anthropic bukanlah kunci kesuksesan Kimi K3","summary":"Penasihat Ilmiah Gedung Putih menuduh perusahaan China Moonshot membuat Kimi K3 dengan mendistilasi model besar Fable dari Anthropic dan menggunakan chip terlarang. Namun, beberapa ahli AI menyatakan keraguan, berpendapat bahwa hanya dengan distilasi tidak mungkin mereplikasi kemampuannya dalam dua minggu sejak Fable dirilis pada 1 Juli, dan manfaat dari penyetelan dengan pengawasan (SFT) menurun seiring meningkatnya kompleksitas model.","category":"技巧观点","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"Para ahli meragukan tuduhan Gedung Putih: Distilasi Fable Anthropic bukanlah kunci kesuksesan Kimi K3 - Berita AI Aioga","description":"Penasihat Ilmiah Gedung Putih menuduh perusahaan China Moonshot membuat Kimi K3 dengan mendistilasi model besar Fable dari Anthropic dan menggunakan chip terlarang. Namun, beberapa...","url":"https://www.aioga.com/id/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","contentTranslated":true,"sourceHash":"44d5aea68cf0d281","translatedAt":"2026-07-26T06:28:02.418Z"},"th":{"title":"ผู้เชี่ยวชาญตั้งคำถามต่อข้อกล่าวหาของทำเนียบขาว: การกลั่น Fable ของ Anthropic ไม่ใช่กุญแจสู่ความสำเร็จของ Kimi K3","summary":"ที่ปรึกษาด้านวิทยาศาสตร์ของทำเนียบขาวกล่าวหาว่าบริษัทจีน Moonshot ใช้วิธีการสกัดแบบ Distillation กับโมเดลขนาดใหญ่ Fable ของ Anthropic และใช้ชิปต้องห้ามในการสร้าง Kimi K3 แต่ผู้เชี่ยวชาญด้าน AI หลายคนแสดงความสงสัย โดยเห็นว่าเพียงการสกัดแบบ Distillation ไม่สามารถสร้างความสามารถของ Fable ได้ภายในสองสัปดาห์หลังจากที่ Fable เปิดตัวเมื่อวันที่ 1 กรกฎาคม และผลประโยชน์ของการปรับแต่งแบบมีผู้ควบคุม (SFT) กำลังลดลงตามความซับซ้อนของโมเดล","category":"技巧观点","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"ผู้เชี่ยวชาญตั้งคำถามต่อข้อกล่าวหาของทำเนียบขาว: การกลั่น Fable ของ Anthropic ไม่ใช่กุญแจสู่ความสำเร็จของ Kimi K3 - ข่าว AI Aioga","description":"ที่ปรึกษาด้านวิทยาศาสตร์ของทำเนียบขาวกล่าวหาว่าบริษัทจีน Moonshot ใช้วิธีการสกัดแบบ Distillation กับโมเดลขนาดใหญ่ Fable ของ Anthropic และใช้ชิปต้องห้ามในการสร้าง Kimi K3 แต่ผู้เชี่...","url":"https://www.aioga.com/th/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","contentTranslated":true,"sourceHash":"44d5aea68cf0d281","translatedAt":"2026-07-26T06:28:15.843Z"},"pl":{"title":"Eksperci kwestionują zarzuty Białego Domu: destylacja Fable od Anthropic nie była kluczowym czynnikiem sukcesu Kimi K3","summary":"Doradca naukowy Białego Domu oskarżył chińską firmę Moonshot o stworzenie Kimi K3 poprzez destylację dużego modelu Fable firmy Anthropic i użycie zakazanych chipów. Jednak wielu ekspertów AI wyraża wątpliwości, twierdząc, że samej destylacji nie da się wykorzystać do odtworzenia jego możliwości w ciągu dwóch tygodni po wydaniu Fable 1 lipca, a korzyści z nadzorowanego dostrajania (SFT) maleją wraz ze wzrostem złożoności modelu.","category":"技巧观点","source":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","aggregationSource":"TechCrunch：AI（RSS）","pageTitle":"Eksperci kwestionują zarzuty Białego Domu: destylacja Fable od Anthropic nie była kluczowym czynnikiem sukcesu Kimi K3 - Aioga Wiadomości AI","description":"Doradca naukowy Białego Domu oskarżył chińską firmę Moonshot o stworzenie Kimi K3 poprzez destylację dużego modelu Fable firmy Anthropic i użycie zakazanych chipów. Jednak wielu ek...","url":"https://www.aioga.com/pl/news/cmrxhgj0y0043ro4j8rifn33v/","contentTranslated":true,"sourceHash":"44d5aea68cf0d281","translatedAt":"2026-07-26T06:29:02.721Z"}}}}